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Post by Sil Odan on Jan 11, 2012 9:32:05 GMT -5
Nice! Looks like the file was pulled within 2 hours. But I did find this tidbit on a friendly site.
Frontline Gaming Blog wrote:
HIGHLIGHTS SO FAR
This is a new statline that works with BS to determine if hit a unit
Evasion (EV)
The Evasion Value indicates how hard it is to hit
the model. The smaller and faster, the better the
Evasion Value of a warrior. This characteristic is
not part of the modelfs profile as it depends on
the speed of the model. A moving Tau Fire
Warrior has an Evasion of 3, a stationary Land
Raider tank only an Evasion of 1. This
characteristic is described on page 70.
Cover Save are now 5+ looks like for many things
Wound allocation: Back to 4th ed we go! All wounds are distributed by armor type, multi-wound models count for as many models as they have remaining wounds. Sarge and his special weapon buddies are last to die.
Running in the movement phasec.most of us do this already!
Instant Death, this is awesome! Instant death is totally changed, if your toughness is exceeded by 4 points of strength you take 2 wounds. By 5, 3 wounds, etc. Tyranids, rejoice!
If you double your opponentfs WS, you hit on 2Œs in combat! If their WS is double yours, you hit on a 5, triple, you hit on a 6!
Rigid saves: sounds like FnP, but is ignored by AP 1,2,3 or instant death attacks. FnP is a 4+ rigid save
Removed from play now just means removed as a casualty. Necrons get a break from JotWW!
Preferred enemy: Shooting and HtH! But like 4th ed, always hit on a 3+, if normally hitting on a 3+, now hits on a 2+. If you choose to shoot at a unit that you have PE against, but donft, you lost the rule for the rest of the game! Now Destroyers with preferred enemy: Everything! makes sense!
Tiers of Eternal Warrior, still reading it, but if you have EW 1, you ignore ID 1, etc. level 3 ignores all ID
If a unit can be singled out by an attack (JotWW) it becomes itfs own unit. Shielded (USR) ignores that rule.
Falling back is now your movement + D6
some units can cause Terror which triggers a morale check
Shaken applies to all units now, like pinning for infantry and shaken as now for vehicles
Broken units automatically fail their morale if they lose a combat.
Broken units automatically fail their morale if they lose a combat.
Tactical Retreat: If a unit falls off the board, they are removed from play but does not count as destroyed. You can choose to leave the game and not give up a KP or VPs.
Immobilized counts for all unit types. Immobile units EV value (evasion) is decreased, usually +1 to hit them.
Tiered fearlessness: can be pinned or shaken. Nice! Fearless units are subject to rules but are better against them. Level 3 fearless ignores everything, though. Stubborn the same. Cold Blooded new rule allows you to choose to pass or fail. ATSKNF largely remains the same.
Critical hits: this is a blanket rule that automatically wounds and ignores all saves but invulnerable, vehicles take a penetrating hit. Triggered by certain attacks and difficult terrain roles, which now are on a 6, not a 1.
new Dense terrain type: canft see through it at all. If a unit is in it, you ignore this unit for shooting.
Cover saves now 5+ for all but fortified ruins.
Skilled Rider now IGNORES difficult terrain checks.
Airborne rule: units with this rule ignore difficult and dangerous terrain, but still gain a cover save form it.
Move through cover: run/cruise through difficult terrain.
Turn phases: Move, Assault, Shoot, Consolidate
BIG! In order to control a mission objective, you must have it for an ENTIRE turn.
Turns are defined, things that occur :at the beginning of the turnh are clearly defined.
Cruise and Combat speed are for all units now, cruising or running for infantry, is a straight double movement, no more random roll.
You cannot shoot before charging anymore. A Charge is a double move.
Engage action: charge normal movement distance (not double), but can shoot in the following shooting phase
Flat Out: triple movement
Fleet adds 2 to your movement value!
Fast rule: shoot twice if stationary, shoot normally after moving or charging
Rage: canft remain stationary, must take -1 morale check to not charge enemy unit within 12
Alpha Strike: charging into terrain makes defenders I10, charging already engaged unit makes attacker I10
In HTH, if a template deviates onto combat, each unit under it only takes 1 hit. Canft target into HtH.
BIG RULE: No Retreat is now a critical hit for every wound you lost combat by (ignores armor) but you can pass a morale check with a -1 for every wound you lost combat by. Wow, that levels the playing field, a LOT!
Sweeping advance: if you lose combat and fail a morale, you roll 5+ and break out of combat or are destroyed. If your In is higher than the pursuing unitfs In, you break off on a 4+
3 consolidation
Hit and Run now only 3, but can now shoot in the following shooting phase
Hulk rule: can not attack in HtH
Intractable rule: cannot be bound in HtH
All models with a base (infantry, walkers, MCs) do NOT block LOS. They grant a 5+ cover unless the squad leader of the firing unit can not see the target unit, in which case the save is a 4+
Look out sarge: a unit can force a cover save to a unit behind it, even if normally the target unit would not get a save, but the intervening unit takes a critical wound for every save that is passed
Evasion: 3 base for all units. Massive: Tanks, MCs, GCs, bastions, walkers, super-heavies -1 Ev. Stationary -1. Jink +1, Swarm +1, Flyer always a 6, point blank (squad leader is within 12) EV always 3
Divide fire: if you have the divide fire rule, you can give up a shot to shoot all remaining weapons at different targets! A vehicle that holds still can do some serious work, but is easier to hit. Applies to Tanks, Battle Suits, jetbikes, walkers and aircraft
Multi-Targeting: if you have this rule, you can double your shots if you hold still!! Wowzers. If you have multi-targeting(3) you can shoot three times. If you hold still, you shoot 6 times!
Night Vision now lets you reroll your check unless their stealth is higher than their Night Vision.
Overwatch! If an enemy unit ends its move within 12 of a unit with this ability, they can perform a defensive shooting action at them out of sequence
Relentless: can fire as if they held still, rapid fire to 18 as opposed to 24
Tiered stealth: +1. 2. 3 etc.
Swarms: eternal warrior (1), +1 evade, vulnerable to blasts
veiled: tiered level 1, 2d6x3 to spot, level 2 2d6x2, level 3 2d6x1.5 to spot.
Draw Back rule: performed in the consolidation phase, 2d6 move after shooting: eldar jetbikes
In the consolidation phase (after shooting) you can join or leave a unit, embark in a vehicle(!), move or regroup.
You can oly regroup if you are not within 12 of an enemy unit, but if you embark into a vehicle, you automatically regroup.
Patch up: bye bye wound allocation tricks! If you have more than one multi-wound model with a wound, take a wound from one and give it to another until only one model remains with less than full wounds! Peace out, Draigowing!
Defensive fire: you can shoot a unit that comes within 12 out of sequence with this rule. Nice! shoot units as they assault you.
Charge by CHance: sounds like over-watch but for assault. If a unit appears within 6 of the unit with this rule, it can assault that unit. Sounds like shooting a transport, blowing up it up, then assaulting the unit inside.
Rapid Fire: tiered rapid fire, if within 12 you get one extra shot. rapid fire (2) gives 3 shots at 12, 2 at 18
assault weapons count as a secondary close combat weapon in HtH
Ordnance weapons take 2 fire actions to fire, ordnance barrage take 4 fire actions
gbombh type weapons are fired in the movement phase
grenades can be used as weapons against massive type models (MCs!) or vehicles but WS is 1
Directed Hits: attacker chooses what models take the wounds. Stopped by shielding units, or the shielded rule.
Grenade launchers halve the WS of the defending unit when attacking them with grenades
ID causes an additional wound even if the str value of the attack isnft high enough to normally cause ID. Eternal warrior block ID if the tier is higher.
master crafted rerolls a miss, multiple master crafted weapons of the same type in the same unit reroll one miss per model with the rule (speeds things up a lot)
coarse weapon: only another coarse weapon may grant an additional attack and canft be directed.
Blast weapons. Wow! Hit with BS as normal, if you miss, scatter the number x 2 (always scatters). So if you hit on a 4, you can only ever scatter 4 max!
Template weapons: can shoot out 3 from the firing model unless otherwise greater, if it hits the firing point of a vehicle or bastion, D3 models inside are hit! Can be fired in the turn you assault, hitting D6 times on the target unit at the weapons str and ap.
blast weapons hit as described above. Any model partially under the template gets hit at full strength (even vehicles). If the blast hits a vehicle, full strength to armor in firerfs facing. If not on vehicle, full strength to armor facing the center of the blast but -3 on the damage table.
Multiple blasts: fire one weapon as glead.h Resolve where it lands, all secondary shots must touch the preceding template and hit as many enemy models as possible, moving towards the enemy unit if the shot missed. Wow. Faster, and much deadlier.
Rail Weapons: awesome! Target a model within range, even if not in LOS. Roll to hit as with a blast weapon. After final point is determined, draw a line between point and firing unit. All units under the line take as many hits as models under the line. Holy crap, this can rape tanks! A Hammerhead could theoretically hit as many tanks as are in a straight line and in range! Models out of LOS get a 4+. Multiple rail weapons resolve simultaneously, indirect rail weapons only grant a cover save if the unit is in area terrain.
Barrage: roll to hit as with blast weapon. If target is out of LOS you hit with BS, roll the scatter, on a gHith you hit. On an arrow you scatter double the die roll. On a BS miss, you scatter as normal.
Bombing is a free action done in the movement phase
AA weapons always hit target as if it were evade 3
Entangling weapons cause target to be in difficult and dangerous
pinning weapons cause cumulative morale checks to be pinned. -1 for each unsaved wound.
Snipers are finally legit! All sniper weapons are pinning, rending, directed hits! Wow, they can choose who they can hit! Finally.
Targeter: shooting unit makes target count as stationary for EV purposes.
Twin-linked template weapons increase their range to 6. Wow, twin flamers now shoot farther instead of rerolling to wound.
Rapid fire weapons fire like assault weapons now, meaning they can always fire once out to max range, and an additional shot if within 12. Nice!
Force weapons cause ID(2) so they donft own monstrous creatures anymore. Thank goodness.
Power weapons now have the parry rule, which grants a 5++ in HtH! Awesome! A reason to take them.
Monstrous creatures now hit with a weapon that is 2xS, ap 2
All CCWs are ap6, which means Orks and Gaunts and such get no save from most HtH attacks.
whitcblades are str7, and can be gchanelledh activated with a ld test, to allow the wielder to reroll any failed invul saves.
Melta bombs finally have the melta rule and ap!
Psychic Hood: roll a D6 if within 24, add mastery level, blocker needs to beat defender to stop power. Canft be used inside a transport.
Unit Types:
Infantry: 6 move, 12 run or charge
Beasts or Calvary: move 7, charge 21, run 14
Jump Infantry: move 9, charge or run 18, deep strike
Flying Infantry: airborne, move 9, run or charge 18, deep strike
Jet Pack: move 6, airborne, draw back, deep strike, 12 charge or run
Bikes: move 8, charge or run 16, fast, multi-targeting (1), jink, +1 toughness against shooting attacks only, more resistant to ID
Jetbikes: move like bikes, plus airborne, and draw back for Eldar
MCfs: massive, monstrous, multi-targeting (2), relentless
Gargantuan Creatures: 9 move, fearless (3) and a host of other rules
Ground Vehicle: any vehicle not specified is a ground vehicle, move 6, fearless (2), hulk, intractable, multi-targeting(1), relentless
Skimmer: move 8, same rules as ground vehicle but also airborne
Fast Skimmer: same as skimmer but also: jink, fast
walkers: vehicle, fearless (2), massive, multi-targeting(1), relentless
artillery: same as above but also crew, crew members are markers that represent firing models. take one away every time the vehicle suffers an unsaved glancing or penetrating hit.
Fortifications: same as above bu also hulk and immobile
Characters
special rule: covering fire: Character forgoes shooting to allow unit to have one directed shot if the unit rolls at least 3, 6Œs to hit.
Characters allow their unit to regroup in the consolidation phase. No mention to minimum unit sizes.
Characters have directed hit rule in HtH and shooting!
Characters can either be a squad leader or an IC.
Squad leaders are really important. They determine characteristic tests, facing for shooting at vehicles, seeing if the enemy unit is in cover, point blank range, etc.
If squad leader dies, another model takes his/her place.
ICfs can not join vehicles or MCs/GCs unless they are of the same unit type.
Psykers
Psykers can perform one gpowerh type action per level of mastery. Mastery goes from one to 6. Humans rarely exceed 3, Eldar or Daemons rarely exceed 5.
All psykers level 1 unless specified otherwise. 1 power per level, canft be duplicate power unless otherwise specified.
Perils on 2 or 12, critical hit. No mention of rerolling successful invul saves.
Psyker squads are cleared up. One model counts as using the power.
Any psyker can attempt to stop a power, works on a 5+ so long as the defender is not in a vehicle and within 24
Vehicles
No vehicles can go up levels in a building anymore, even walkers.
Terrain checks for every piece of terrain moved through.
Hitting a Vehicle in HtH is different. If vehicle moves, they are WS10, if they hold still, WS0.
gTankh type vehicles get -1 to the damage table. Leman Russ, hoooo!
Super heavies: -3 on the damage table.
weapon destroyed is -1 to multi-targeting. Reduced to 0 can only fire one weapon. reuced to -1, canft shoot.
Immobilized 2 times = dead.
Explodes is now d6 radius. All units in range, or that were embarked roll a d6 for as many models as were hit. On a 6, the unit takes a critical hit. Exploded vehicles leave no debris behind.
wrecks are a 5+, difficult, dangerous
hull breach: for every additional stunned or immobilized result in the same phase, the damage is 1 higher. Ouch.
skimmers that are immobilized hit the ground off their base, and models underneath move out of the way.
Sqaudrons: any stunned, shaken, immobilized result ignored on a 5+ with +1 for each vehicle in the squadron. If test is failed, each vehicle in the squadron suffers the result.
smoke=5+ cover
dangerous terrain=roll d6, on a 6, vehicle suffers penetrating hit. only invul save to stop
repair rules got WAY better: on a 5+, repairing model removes a shaken, stunned, immobile or weapon destroyed result. Or, can boost the vehicle with the same role to add a level of multi-targeting! Techmairnes and Techpriests just got waaaaay cooler. For squadrons, only works if he passes the roll for every vehicle in the squadron.
Super Heavy and Titan rules in the book.
Tanks are not what they were. Lots of old tank vehicles are no longer tanks. Tanks are -1 to evade, but -1 on the damage table, too. AV14 tanks get multi-targeting(3)
units in a transport are now relentless!
buuuuut, may only target units within 18
If an enemy unit is within 2 or an exit point, the unit inside the transport can not get out.
disembarking is the same as now.
Embarking is huge now. If the squad leader is within 3 of an entry point of a transport, the entire unit can embark. This occurs in the consolidation phase and nullifies any other conditions. Such as being broken. It also means the unit can avoid being wiped out if broken.
Emergency disembarkation means the unit is stunned after the vehicle is destroyed.
If all exits are blocked, the blocking units can perform a defensive fire or charge by chance move. Ouch.
Transports that enter play via deep strike, can only have embarked units make a combat move after
Flyers can no longer be assaulted! Only by jump or aerial units.
Supersonic allows them to fly across the table like Apoc flier rules. Minimum 12 movement.
always hit on a 6
Lots of rules for fighters, rapid insertion, gunship which modify their shooting characteristics.
Fortifications
Rules for buildings, basically immobile vehicles with av12-14 and some crazy rules.
comm station: can shoot beyond 18 for embarked units
segmented: dangerous terrain to models that deepstrike or supersonic within 24
Missions
3 basic missions.
6 turns, no more random game length
First turn is determined by a cool system. You secretly bid stratagem points. If you bet higher, you go first unless the other guy outbids you. You keep bidding until one of you gives up. The winner goes first, the lower gets the extra stratagem points. If the loser rolls a 6, he gets 25% of the points he bet (rounding up). That is what seizing the initiative now is. You canft take the first turn unexpectedly.
All missions use gvictory pointsh although this is different than it was.
Annihilation is in most missions: Kill Points for how many points a unit costs: roll a D6 before the game starts 1-2 every 40pts is 1 VP. 3-4 every 50pts a unit is worth is 1 VP. 5-6 every 70pts a unit is worth gives a VP. Randomly screws MSU or KP denial. Nice.
For multi=player, the player that destroyed the last model of the unit gets the points.
Objectives are placed like Seize Ground now, 3 for a 1K game, 5 for a 1-2K game, 7 for a 2K-3K game.
To hold an objective, you must be within 3 of it, outside of a transport, at the beginning of the turn, before reserve rolls, starting turn 2.
A unit can only hold one objective at a time. Vehciels canft hold objectives. Scoring units get 3 VPs per turn, and 6 at gamefs end!
Reserves
Wow, this is awesome! For every unit held in reserve, you get a gpoolh of dice. You can take up to 3 and use it to roll for any unit or strikeforce in reserve. You can choose not to roll for any units.
If you roll the right number (same as now) they come one. A strikeforce can be any combination of units, but get a -1 to reserves. Units come in automatically turn 4.
This is way better than what we have now. So much more tactical.
Units that come in from reserve appear within 6 of your board edge and may act normally, meaning they can shoot if they held still. Nice!
Deep Strike
If deepstriking out of 18 of enemy models and not in impassible terrain or a transport, no scatter is made and the unit can only shoot.
If within 18, the unit scatters as normal and if it lands on impassible terrain or other units, it reduces the scatter by as many inches as it needs to miss the object and becomes stunned. If the first model lands OK, but the rest canft be placed, they are lost.
If you land within 12 of enemy units, they may perform a defensive fire action.
units in a transport can remain embarked after deep striking!
If you have a beacon, icon or similar, units coming in within 6 of it never scatter and donft count as being in critical range.
gAmbushh deep strike: donft scatter if within critical range.
gHeroich deep strike means the landing unit canft shoot, but also canft be shot.
Outflanking
You choose what short table edge you appear on, and within 6 of it. Nice! Reserve rolls for outflankers are made at -1.
Scouts
12 consolidation move after deployment for ALL units. No more turbo boosting scout moves. Allows Outflank
Missions
The main mission is Dawn of War, but different meaning. It is Seize ground and annihilation rules as described above. Reminds me of the Bay Area Open mission!
Meant for 2 players, 1K to 3K points.
Eye of the storm is the second mission: 3-5 players, same mission, alternate turn activation, alternate deployment. 1k to 1.5K per player
random game length
Massive attack
3K points or more
2 players
alternate turn structure with players activating portions of their army in turn. So, you use a part of your army, your opponent uses a part of theirs, etc until all units have gone and then the turn recycles.
same mission objectives.
Stratagems
These are bought during the first turn bid and are pretty awesome. They range from rerolling a single die per turn, to giving units twin linked, tank hunters, etc. Really cool mechanic, IMO, and one that adds a lot to the game.
Thatfs it for now, wefll dig into the unit FAQfs tomorrow. I am exhausted.
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Post by JohnnyDangerous on Feb 3, 2012 5:48:50 GMT -5
So whats every ones take on this? I have read a bunch of threads which are trying to cry hoax. Seriously? I know I have a ludicrous amount of free time, but seriously, to write an entire rule book, which people have tried and said its functional, plus faqs for almost every army... I mean either this was a bet for serious money(Like ,"I bet you 500.00 you couldn't write better rules, stop bitching.") or it is an early edition of the new rules set as submitted in the early stages, obviously before going to an editor. A hoax, as defined as:something intended to deceive or defraud. I do not believe it is. Will it be as complete as the leak previous to 5th(which I swear besides pics was very close to the real thing) I do not think so. Especially since its not fleshed out all the way... It could really use some info...
Here are the thoughts I had while reading it, as I noted them while reading:
16 inch howling banshee asault range!!!
Only 1 hit taken by wandering templates into assault…. Another reason not to use a vindicator
Combat drill on page 60, begins with same text as alpha strike on page 56
For swarms, do you think they meant +1, as jetbikes too are hard to hit and get a +1…
Patch up sure crumpts wound ablation with ork nobz, but provides a fix for power players taking advantage of rules!
Multi-targeting makes leman russes stupid good, even overpowered, luckily no weapon can fire twice.
10” wow swarms are super weak to blast!
Only -3 to vehicles not under the template hole means a lot of dead vehicles! And so goes total mech spam... Another nice way to even out play.
Oh at least the tau get a rail weapon upgrade! And targeter… no evasion… great upgrade, they need it!
Templates against transports… a good idea, also lends to fix the issue with ground transports being mobile impenetrable pill boxes... be willing to take it if you can also dish it out!
I will re-read it tonight, but It addresses some issues which needed fixing(wound ablation, transports being a bit too awesome with almost no drawbacks, scattering of templates all of the time), caters a bit to their larger, expensive models(tanks, flyers, super heavies/forgeworld which is another reason to believe its not a complete hoax its a very GW move), and adjusts the game to faster pace(with the quicker movement, assault units will be on people, like linebackers on steroids, which they should be...) If it is try, I will need some Valkeries/Vendettas for my IG as flyers seem awfully good all of a sudden as well...
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Post by Servo on Feb 3, 2012 11:27:13 GMT -5
I don't think it is "fake" so much as an early or test draft.
One rumor I have read is that this was an "anything goes" version the developers were told to create and test, just to see if any huge changes would work. That would explain the professional look of it.
Hopefully we will see some parts of it (preferred enemy applying in shooting, evasion values, change in rapid fire weapons, pistols at their S in HTH, troops taking stronger hits when their transport explodes) and not others (change in turn order, change in assault weapons, multi-level USRs).
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Post by Sil Odan on Feb 28, 2012 9:04:37 GMT -5
Kroothawk posted the following on Dakka Dakka. I think it's rather interesting and makes sense considering GW always said miniatures comes first and gaming comes second. This would allow them to focus more on the modelling aspect of the business. Sounds like good news! We shall just have to wait and see...This was posted by Reecius of Frontline Gaming www.frontlinegaming.org/2012/01/13/6th-ed-40k-rumors/ : Summary: - The leaked 6th edition rules are legit - They want to get rid of edition cycle by releasing a core rule set valid for a long time - These core set will be updated by FAQ's, erratas and supplements - allows for expansions (30k, 41k?) and concentration on model making (Thanks to Drachii for finding this and Reecius himself for posting them in another 6th edition thread ) So, we heard a doozy of a rumor today that I wanted to share with the community. A source of ours who knows people who knows people, etc. often shares tidbits of juicy rumors. Today he and I were talking about 6th ed and whether or not the leaked rules were legit. He told me that a friend of his who works for GW not only confirmed that this rule-set was legit, but that it was the culmination of a master plan, so to speak, that has been in the works for years. Apparently, GW game design has wanted to get away from the edition cycle they’ve been in for the past 3 editions, and want to move towards a core rule set that they can rely on for a long period of time, updating with FAQ’s and Erratas as needed. They want to avoid sweeping changes that leave certain armies in the dust, and therefore with lagging sales. This would allow them to focus on the model line to a greater degree, and to expand the game into different directions. They would be able to explore the game story both forwards and backwards, and a Warhammer 30K supplement was mentioned (which we’ve been hearing about multiple times). He also mentioned the possibility of progressing the story-line, which we have also been hearing from multiple sources. The following are my thoughts on that information. Forgeworld is already fleshing out the backstory with all of their preheresy and heresy era kits. It is not much of a stretch of the imagination to see FW doing a supplement for this period much as they did with the Badab War books, or at least making the models (Primarchs, anyone?). This would allow GW to keep all books current, and to focus on the models, updating books as they need to. Is this true? Who can say. Do I want it to be true? Yeah! It is criminal that GW has not made a game supplement for the most exciting part of the game background (Horus Heresy) and who wouldn’t want to use Primarchs and the Emperor and Horus in games? That would be awesome. Who wouldn’t want to see the story advance? That would be awesome, too! And a lot of what we see in books that don’t make sense now, in the context of the new 6th ed rules we think are real, start to make sense. Maybe that is a case of fitting the system to the existing rules, or perhaps it was all part of a master plan. Who knows? Time will tell what we actually get, but all I can say is that I am very excited for what is to come. What do you all think about this rumor? Would you like to see these things come true?
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Post by JohnnyDangerous on Feb 29, 2012 6:19:30 GMT -5
I personally would love to play a primarch... In fact that is one crapcast model(or more) I would buy!
I think it all makes sense in a business sense. Except that if they are not constantly churning out books, they will lose money from this lack of sales... Though with the printing of such material being most likely costly, how much money do they really make on it anyway... especially since the codexes are all available online for free download?
By refining a core set of rules and balancing everything with errata and supplements.... Plus constantly churning out models... I can see it working in their favor. I have always been under the impression that every army should have some broken units and that tournaments should be about preferred tactics, not which book is "hot" now... Hopefully they can pull it off...
I will be surprised to say the least to find that none of the leaked 6.0 sees light. It makes way more sense to include rules for titans and super heavies in the main rules so people will actually buy them and play them... Instead of people feeling icky about bringing a Baneblade to a game for fear that the Forge World rules will seem unofficial. Plus from a sales/money making angle it seems kind of stupid to own a model selling/making company, which makes products for a game, and then treat them as a completely separate entity...
Though I do have to say, I love the Warhound Titan, but for $391.00 US I don't think I'm there yet... I mean some kid was painting one while we were playing at the bunker... Its not 400.00 big... For that price it should project a hologram which says I am the only hope for the empire... Hopefully, if all is true, then it mean plastic titans... which would be awesome!!!
If you guys get a chance to watch the beasts of war 6th edition video, It sounds fun... though possibly more tactical... which I think equals more fun!
What do you guys think?
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Post by Servo on Jun 7, 2012 14:43:23 GMT -5
The 2 rumored dates for release of 6th Edition are June 30 or July 7. Either way, a month or less  The first release will be the large hardcover edition, just like the one none of us bought in 5th Edition due to price. Expect it to go even higher this time around (the newest WHF edition is $75!!). 1 or 2 months later they will release the boxset, which will have the mini rulebook plus templates, dice, psychic power cards (rumored), and lots of miniatures. Rumored minis are Dark Angels and Chaos Space Marines: - Terminator Captain
- 5 Deathwing Terminators
- 10 Tactical Marines
- 3 Ravenwing Bikes
- Chaos Sorcerer
- 5 Chaos Chosen Marines
- 5 Posessed
- 10-20 Cultists
- Chaos Dreadnought
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of course they will say they are much higher quality... doesnt matter they are all available online.... War machine already does this... but they offer soft covers too.
