Imperial Guard

[Servo]

There was a HUGE rumour dump on the site theonering.net by a supposed anonymous, disgruntled GW employee. The list showed all GW models for The Hobbit and WH40K to be released next year after June up to an unknown time.

Here is the Imperial Guard stuff:

• Imperial Guard Storm Troopers / Iron Cloak Veterans, Plastic- box
  
• Imperial Guard Hydra, Plastic- box
  

[Servo]

Rumors from Stickmonkey on faeit212, via DakkaDakka: GW Release Schedule Rumors - DakkaDakka

- Imperial Guard Codex = Jan 2014
- Armageddon Steel Legion Supplement = Feb 2014
- Catachan Jungle Fighters Supplement = 2014

[JohnnyDangerous]

Sounds good, just hope too much does not change. Like the Ork dex, this one in its 5th edition stylings still looks to be fieldable in many variants. If they make it too flyer centric, it might just ruin the whole thing...

To say the least I am a little nervous on them touching this one. Although, so far, besides Death Wing, almost all of the dexes have been a breath of fresh air, so I hope the trend continues...

[Servo]

Rumors from Bell of Lost Souls:

Codex Imperial Guard launches in March 2014
Look for many refreshes in the codex rules.
Expanded command system with the return of Doctrines
The missing IG tanks will be released:
-Griffon/Collosus/Medusa artillery kit
Stormtroopers released
Veterans released
-These two infantry kits include many, many optional bits to build command squads and even penal troops.
New centerpiece kit is a Horus Heresy era tank.

Looking forward to new Stormtroopers. They deserve some kick-ass multipart plastics.

Not sure about return of Doctrines. If they are simple but characterful like the new SM Chapter Tactics, that could be good. If they are over-the-top like the old Doctrines, I will try to limit myself to an eye roll or two.

[JohnnyDangerous]

I agree about the doctrines... I was under the impression that removing them was seen as a positive. Although if they raise the cost on some things(mainly the Vendetta) or new flyers, some sort of doctrine single use bonuses might not be so bad.

The issue right now is that the guard are not a glass cannon... They are more like an Iron Trebuchet. Let me explain... Most of the army(at its core and to play fluffy) is a weak easy to destroy gunline. But it is a gunline which hurls dangerous projectiles many times inaccurately. Though they do have armor which offers some strength, it is more to the effect of giving infiltrators a tough choice when it comes to outflanking.

They do have mobility in chimeras or Valkeries... but they are not unstoppable. Valkyries/Vendettas were probably the bees knees when there was no Skyfire, but now a smart opponent will arm themselves with it. Plus a quadgun does bad things.

Last I heard the paratrooper doctrine was totally broken because the whole force could deepstrike. This meant a player could cover the board in heavy weapons platforms and make things overly difficult for an opponent while they ride around with russes causing issue. That seems too strong!

If the doctrines are more like the space marines chapter tactics it will be much more fair.

As for new models... maybe I would pick up a vets box for special weapons or sergeants... But I already have most of them painted... why would I buy more?

Stormtroopers on the other hand... Im thinking lots of juicy bits and hopefully some good options... Plus Karskins are already kind of cool models... so they will have to be really great or I will just pick up some metal ones which are out of vogue.

Exciting stuff though...

[Servo]

From Bell of Lost Souls:

I did have a tiny look behind the iron curtain of GWs privacy policies, and I was able to see some mockups of the new veterans/stormtrooper boxed set, and it would be an amazing kit to build warbands or stormtrooper squads. Also I saw a model that appeared to be an Inquisitor, and was wearing a long cloak and armor. I could see GW allowing stormtroopers as a troop choice to induce additional sales of the new kit, which, frankly, floored me. The details were great, with kasrkin style armor, and all sorts of weapons including hellguns, sniper rifles, special weapons, a cool missile launcher, a bunch of sergeant options, bolters, and lots of shotguns that managed to not look like scout shotguns. Also, the bolters did not look like marine shotuns, they were a little more human sized. Some of the poses were also amazingly dynamic. Some were stoic standing poses, while a couple were very John Woo! There were also a lot of extra bits, poches, packs, grenades, knives, some scanner like equipment, and what appeared to be night vision goggles. If i were a puppy, I would've piddled onm the rug, and it was a supreme act of will not to grab the models and run for the door. Apparently, they have also been ready for some time. Please dear God, let these see the light of my hobby store soon and I will have at least 5 boxes! This might even revitalize my Guard army.

Oh, and there were a bunch of heads! respirator heads, heads with berets, bald heads, heads with mohawks and crew cuts. Most were scarred, and one had an eyepatch, while another had a disfigured eye with what looked like claw marks, one head was smoking a stogie, and there were two heads with berets. There was even a knife that looked like a trench knife with raised knuckle dusters. There were scopes, a hand radio, and a bunch of bits for the bases including plants, a snake, and some ammo cans and satchel charges. There was even a hand holding an entrenching tool (shovel to you non-military types). There were a few holstered pistols, and as a delightful surprise, there were also autoguns in addition to lasguns, and there were bits for pistol and close combat weapon troops, although few were chainblades. There was a demo charge, melta bombs, and camo cloaks. I was very, very impressed. The attention to detail was phenomenal.

This is one of the top kits in the game I have wanted to see done. Sounds cool.

[JohnnyDangerous]

I am interested... especially with the lots of bits... but I hated the ap3 lasgun idea of the last stormtroopers...

So it will be cool to see.

[Servo]

The big rumor for Imperial Guard is that they will not be "Imperial Guard" any more. Battle Sisters changed their name to a Latin-ized and copyrightable "Adepta Soriritas", and now the Imperial Guard will apparently be called "Astra Militarum". Some even say the next Space Marines codex will be called "Adeptus Astartes".

The other reason for the name change is that this codex will include more than the Guard. One example of this is Imperial KNIGHTS ! If you don't know, Knights are mini-Titans:



Wow! Those look awesome.

Also, rumors are being "confirmed" by many sources that plastic Storm Troopers and Ogryns/Bullgryns are coming for the formerly-Imperial Guard.

[JohnnyDangerous]

As I texted Servo about this... Yes very cool models... and for their size, reasonably costed (30 tactical marines)
But to me, and Sil maybe you would second this, they look almost too much like Warmachine Cygnar Warjacks...

It's really all I see when I look at them... I mean even the exhaust pipes are placed in the same place... The head/necks look similarly created...

It makes me wonder if GW stole some sculptors from Warmachine...

[Servo]

GAAAHHH!!!!!! What the living, gasping, raging, fething HELL! This is the most disappointed I have been in GW models in years, UGH! I am not even sure I want to share these pics...

First, try to keep this straight: Imperial Guard are now called "Astra Militarum"; Storm Troopers are now called "Militarum Tempestus Scions"; and the new MTSs will be included in a new supplemental codex called "Militarum Tempestus".

I feel sick. Under protest, here are the new models:

New RIDICULOUS Taurox transport (plastic), Militarum Tempestus Scions, and supplemental Codex: Militarum Tempestus (online only)



Taurox



Militarum Tempestus Scions



Codex: Astra Militarum cover



It looks like the "Storm Troopers" may have head variants, which is good because I do not like the 2nd Edition style berets. But, if they had proper Kasrkin/SWAT heads I might like the models.

There is no excuse for the Taurox. Just pathetic.

[Servo]

More Guard releases:

Ogryns/Bullgryns dual kit (plastic)










The first 2 are standard Ogryns. I love the Ripper Guns. The second 2 are the new "Bullgryns", which are apparently crowd control brutes. They might be meant to go with the new MT Scions or Adeptus Arbites. The fifth picture is probably a "Bonehead", which is a slightly smarter sergeant-level character for the squad.

*** UPDATE: The fifth Ogryn picture is not a Bonehead, it is Nork Deddog, an Ogryn special character around since 2nd edition. ***


Hydra (plastic)


Good model; only surprised it took so long. Not sure if it is part of a dual kit.

[Servo]

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