Primarchs from Forge World

[Servo]

Forge World started making kits for the Primarchs. With 1 coming every few months, it will be awhile before we see all 18.

The first 2 were OK, but when I saw the prerelease for Ferrus Manus I just had to share:


Angron, Primarch of the World Eaters





Fulgrim, Primarch of the Emperor's Children





Ferrus Manus, Primarch of the Iron Hands





Some are sculpted to put together, like this epic duel:




Yes, they are to our scale. And yes, they are expensive.

Link: Forge World's Horus Heresy Character Series
Link: The Shell Case Blog

[JohnnyDangerous]

Also weird to note... I went to Forgeworld... Could not find Ferrus Manos... But if you search for it, a link will show up in google which takes you to the Forgeworld site...

Where again, it is not listed as a link.

I thought Ferrus would be more scarred? And I dont remember him having a backpack... Oh the poor Iron hands, to lose a primarch to a heretics blade...

Does anyone else think Ferrus Manus is the worst named Primarch. As Ferrous is another way to name Iron especially in compounds and manos in spanish is hands...

Its like if I named my chapter "The Johnny Dangerous's." But instead of being so obvious, I would call it "The Kobra Kai Disasters."

The models are all fantastic!!! Dont get me wrong!

Lastly, while I do like the sculpts... I dont get the feel of scale from them I expected to... The Primarchs are supposed to be atleast a head or foot taller than an astartes... and Ferrus is supposed to be the tallest of all of them...

Somehow in my mind I expected them to be bigger... yah dont want to drop a "thats what she said" to that statement... You will land in a world of oops.

[JohnnyDangerous]

The Primarch I look forward to seeing the most is Sanguinious,"The Angel."

Second to that is the Primarch of the death guard, Mortarian, as he is supposed to be the thinnest and least muscular of the bunch.

I feel like this would be a difficult sculpt as the sculptors are so used to making burley muscle men. It would be an interesting change.

My third is a toss up... Roboute Guilliman(Primarch Ultra Marines), Leman Russ(Primarch Space Wolves), Rogal Dorn(Primarch Imperial Fists) or Pertuabo(Primarch Iron Warriors)...

Guilliman and Dorn because they embody the "Will of the Emperor" and so I would expect really amazing detail work...

Russ because he is a badass...

and Pertuabo because (and this is why I am mixed on this one) if done correctly he has a robot body guard that he goes into combat with... and OMFG does that sound crazy!!! Course as he is virtually unable to be harmed on the battlefield because of this... Him and his robots would be 1000 points...

You might laugh at that... but if the fluff shows anything... its that a primarch can possibly take a plasma shot from a Titan... and that is about what it would take to bring him down!

[Servo]

"Ferrus Manus" is Latin for "Iron Hands"; and yes, it is a stupid name. But is it worse than Sanguinius (derived from the Latin translation for "blood"), or Corax (Latin for "raven"), or Lion El'Jonson (named for some famous Brit Lionel Johnson). Alpharius, Angron, and Mortarion are a little too on the money, also.

As for Ferrus Manus, I thought Magnus was the tallest and biggest Primarch? Where did you read that about FM?

I am most excited to see Magnus and Vulkan. Hopefully, Vulkan will be "African" black and not midnight black, like they have been painting Salamanders lately. GW is racist.

[JohnnyDangerous]

In the audio book "Fulgrim." It covers in part, the fortification of Istvan V as Horus's HQ post the Istvan Atrocity, and the battle at this location where Vulkan, Corax, and Ferrus Manus were killed.

Is it really Iron hands in latin? I call BS! Course it sort of makes sense in that the Emporer named them and probably tried to use an ancient earth speak (not the Gothic of the 40k universe) to sound amazing. If the planets they visited were not so uniquely named I would venture that they were purposefully named without much thought...

I imagine there was much debate on the topic and this was the conclusion!

Long live the Kobra Kia Disasters!

[Servo]

The Emperor did not name them, the people of their worlds named them. At least in the case of Jonson, Guilliman, Kurze, Khan, Sanguinius, Alpharius.

[JohnnyDangerous]

Well toss that theory directly out the window next to your desk, then exclaim loudy,"BAD THEORY, BAD! STAY OUT OF MY HOUSE!"

[Servo]

Games Day UK is today.

Someone snapped a pic of a "supposed" new Primarch, and a confirmed WIP with no name:

RUMORED Lorgar, Primarch of the Word Bearers:



Not sure if it is actually Lorgar, and not sure what I think until I see a better picture.


PROBABLY Horus, Primarch of the Luna Wolves / Sons of Horus:



Just a work-in-progress, but already looks amazing! Hopefully, its based on the famous painting of Horus and the Emperor facing off over Sanguinius's corpse.

(Found a pic, here it is):

[JohnnyDangerous]

Komputa says no!!! I mean this is the primarch which conquested entire planets in the emperors name then went rogue.... A Primarch who has committed himself chaos!!! Not Enough I Say!!!

[Servo]

Lorgar, Primarch of the Word Bearers[/u





Horus, Primarch of the Luna Wolves / Sons of Horus (later the Black Legion)

[Sil Odan]

Sept 21, 2013 10:05:17 GMT -5 Servo said:

...or Lion El'Jonson (named for some famous Brit Lionel Johnson).

The famous Brit in question, Lionel Johnson, was a poet who lived a solitary life, and struggled with alcoholism and his repressed homosexuality. He wrote a poem that some have considered his greatest masterpiece. The poem was called "The Dark Angel". This is interesting considering the themes of the poem. Before he wrote it, Lionel Johnson converted to Catholicism and shunned Oscar Wilde (due to his homosexual nature, I would assume); the poem is loaded with religious imagery, as well as the the battle Lionel waged within himself and his newly found beliefs.

The Dark Angel

DARK Angel, with thine aching lust
To rid the world of penitence:
Malicious Angel, who still dost
My soul such subtile violence!

Because of thee, no thought, no thing,
Abides for me undesecrate:
Dark Angel, ever on the wing,
Who never reachest me too late!

When music sounds, then changest thou
Its silvery to a sultry fire:
Nor will thine envious heart allow
Delight untortured by desire.

Through thee, the gracious Muses turn,
To Furies, O mine Enemy!
And all the things of beauty burn
With flames of evil ecstasy.

Because of thee, the land of dreams
Becomes a gathering place of fears:
Until tormented slumber seems
One vehemence of useless tears.

When sunlight glows upon the flowers,
Or ripples down the dancing sea:
Thou, with thy troop of passionate powers,
Beleaguerest, bewilderest, me.

Within the breath of autumn woods,
Within the winter silences:
Thy venomous spirit stirs and broods,
O Master of impieties!

The ardour of red flame is thine,
And thine the steely soul of ice:
Thou poisonest the fair design
Of nature, with unfair device.

Apples of ashes, golden bright;
Waters of bitterness, how sweet!
O banquet of a foul delight,
Prepared by thee, dark Paraclete!

Thou art the whisper in the gloom,
The hinting tone, the haunting laugh:
Thou art the adorner of my tomb,
The minstrel of mine epitaph.

I fight thee, in the Holy Name!
Yet, what thou dost, is what God saith:
Tempter! should I escape thy flame,
Thou wilt have helped my soul from Death:

The second Death, that never dies,
That cannot die, when time is dead:
Live Death, wherein the lost soul cries,
Eternally uncomforted.

Dark Angel, with thine aching lust!
Of two defeats, of two despairs:
Less dread, a change to drifting dust,
Than thine eternity of cares.

Do what thou wilt, thou shalt not so,
Dark Angel! triumph over me:
Lonely, unto the Lone I go;
Divine, to the Divinity.

Lionel Pigot Johnson


I have to admit, I find the creation of The Dark Angels very interesting, especially how GW continued the inner turmoil with the whole Chapter (just don't drop the soap in the Imperial Shower).

And back to the topic, Ferrus rocks! That is an amazing model. And I rather like Fulgrim, considering we are used to seeing big, buff marines. He's just a little guy.

[Servo]

Isn't that poem just about Jessica Alba and that terrible show?

[Sil Odan]

I doubt it. If it was, the poem would have been much, much shorter.

The Dark Angel

Thou mayest be hot
Thy show is rot
Shoot me now.
Please.

Lionel Pigot Johnson

[JohnnyDangerous]

I thought Horus would be as big as a titan
... but those stairs are to his scale...

Must have summoned the ruinious powers for that...

I did recently come across his theme music:

Dissection, Reinkaos
It's Germany evil metal, so Germany metal...

Though good if you like Metallica style guitars but the vocals of the raspy son of Kurt Hammett and the singer of Megadeath's lovechild.

Dissection - Reinkaos - Full Album: youtu.be/IjGzARg_wgE


Love the models! But as said on 4th radio... I wish a pro painter hit them up...

[JohnnyDangerous]

Interesting historical reference, although I am sure as many 80s songs have demonstrated it is a poem about his societally obscure passions...

Although, I first have to admit once I found out so many classic songs were "gay code" I just immediately make the assumption.

It more strikes me as odd that it was at all popular.